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    NYC to Test No-Police Mental Health Crisis Response in Harlem

    New York City police will stay out of many mental health crisis calls and social workers will respond instead in parts of northern Manhattan starting this spring, an official told lawmakers Monday.

    The test program will begin in three Harlem and East Harlem police precincts that together accounted for a highest-in-the-city total of over 7,400 mental health-related 911 calls last year, said Susan Herman, who heads a wide-ranging city mental health initiative called ThriveNYC.

    The details fleshed out a plan the city outlined broadly in November, aiming to keep psychiatric crises from escalating into confrontations and to provide people with more health-focused help.

    The experiment “will be a critical step forward in the city’s commitment to treat mental health crises as public health problems, not public safety issues,” Herman told a City Council committee. She said the city hopes to make the program citywide as quickly as possible.

    Some important specifics remain to be seen in practice, including how real-time decisions about when to summon police — who will still respond to calls involving a weapon or “imminent risk of harm” — will play out. And the union that represents the city’s EMTs says the city needs to make sure they’re safe before going ahead.

    Mental health advocates have hailed the idea but expressed some reservations about how the city is structuring it.

    “Trying to move away from the police being the first responders in a mental health crisis is a step in the right direction,” said Cal Hedigan, CEO of a mental health organization called Community Access. But she wishes the response teams would include people who have had mental illness and are trained to help others.

    Otherwise, “you run the risk of replacing one flawed system with another that doesn’t have an important element,” Hedigan said.

    Calls for changing how authorities respond to people in distress have resounded across the country amid cases such as that of Daniel Prude, a Black man who died after police in Rochester put an anti-spitting hood over his head and restrained him to the ground while he was having a mental health crisis in March. This month, a 9-year-old Black girl ended up being handcuffed and pepper sprayed after police responded to a domestic situation called in by her mother and the girl became emotional.

    Some other U.S. cities, including Denver and San Francisco, have recently replaced or planned to replace police with mental health professionals in some situations. Eugene, Oregon, has had one for decades.

    In New York City, police and EMTs responded to all 154,000 calls to 911 for emergency behavioral health help last year. Nearly half ended with someone being hospitalized; fewer than 1 in 100 resulted in arrests, police officials told the council committee.

    The new test program will dispatch teams of two Fire Department EMTs and one social worker each, available 16 hours a day, Herman said.

    The New York Police Department is working with ThriveNYC “to ensure that the appropriate agency responds to people in mental health crisis,” police spokesperson Al Baker said in a statement.

    Herman said hiring was under way for the new program, and it would start as soon as the needed staffers were hired and trained.

    The Fire Department has expressed support for the test program and declined to comment further on Monday.

    But Oren Barzilay, the head of the EMT union known as Local 2507 for short, said that “before any plan moves forward, we must ensure the safety and security of our workforce.”

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    Bodies are about to hit the floor. This psycho was probably about to do her kids then herself.

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    • #3
      Hey, you wanna handle the EDP's, OK, have fun.
      Remember Cardillo

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      • #4
        Oh that’s fantastic!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thank you! The way I see it, it’s a win win for cops. If I’m wrong, it’s one less duty for a cop so therefore, one less way to get jammed up. If I’m a betting man and sees this go pear shaped, there will be egg on the faces of the city administration and the family of the social worker will sue the balls off the city. Got the popcorn. Extra butter.🍿

        Note, it’s being tested in upper Manhattan. You know, where all the poors live as opposed to lower Manhattan, where all the rich live. Yeah, this is going to be good.

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          • #6
            What could possibly go wrong ?

            Hahahahhahahaha

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            • #7
              The new test program will dispatch teams of two Fire Department EMTs and one social worker each, available 16 hours a day, Herman said.

              The New York Police Department is working with ThriveNYC “to ensure that the appropriate agency responds to people in mental health crisis,” police spokesperson Al Baker said in a statement.
              The EMT union should be pitching a bitch about this.

              Social Worker, B-HEARD EMS Program - Base pay range: $62,112/yr - $71,429/yr

              Social Worker Level 5 (Mental Health Team Supervisor), EMS Program - Salary Range: $77,206.00 - $87,000.00

              EMT Salary Information:
              Starting Salary: $35,254
              After 5 Years: $50,604

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              • #8
                My late father-in-law was there for the 43 fun, people seemed to have accidents and some just went missing and couldn't be found afterwards. He was a tough cop from Ireland who I'm sure did a lot of old school type social work. I can't see how all the unions involved will go along with this insanity and leave their members unprotected. A lot of "woke" people with doctorates will be put to the test.

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                • #9
                  I cant freakin wait!!!
                  "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence in an act of rebellion" Albert Camus

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                  • #10
                    crazies killing violence interrupters or Thrive responders? a win win.
                    ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THEN GOD CREATED DESTROYER SAILORS.

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                    • #11
                      Well this should be interesting

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                      • #12
                        This is going to be great but I'm sure they will have fake occurrences all set up to prove how evil cops were while the actors are only acting. When it really happens the videos won't be aired. Somehow they will blame the social workers somehow, especially if they are a white male
                        For every law that is passed we lose a little bit more of our freedom..... the Late great Bill Fallin.

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                        • 40nout
                          40nout commented
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                          That's an interesting observation.....will the social workers have body cams? I think not......nor will they be held libel for their actions if things go bad. Is there a CCRB for social workers?

                        • Bndb
                          Bndb commented
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                          Good point Wobs!

                      • #13
                        The new test program will dispatch teams of two Fire Department EMTs and one social worker each, available 16 hours a day, Herman said.
                        What happens the other 8 hours? I guess "mental health crisis" only happen during the 2nd and 3rd Platoons. God Forbid that these mental health social workers should have to work midnights....

                        Just more political theater.

                        If the EMTs are smart, the first thing they will do is call for a sector, overriding the social workers, eventually disbanding the whole project.

                        Or, if they're smarter, they'll wait for a social worker to get the shit kicked out of her (or worse), THEN call for a car.


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                        • #14
                          “Trying to move away from the police being the first responders in a mental health crisis is a step in the right direction,” said Cal Hedigan, CEO of a mental health organization called Community Access. But she wishes the response teams would include people who have had mental illness and are trained to help others.

                          Otherwise, “you run the risk of replacing one flawed system with another that doesn’t have an important element,” Hedigan said.

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                          Now we're talking! Let the whackos handle other whackos. And just go to Gracie Mansion to find some available whackos.

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Prosay View Post

                            What happens the other 8 hours? I guess "mental health crisis" only happen during the 2nd and 3rd Platoons. God Forbid that these mental health social workers should have to work midnights....
                            They could also narrow down the time frame to the cycle of full moons.

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