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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lovinlife View Post
    The question I have is where will this war be fought?
    Where ever ppl are left alive. Sobering thought, isn’t it?
    “We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.”​
    George Orwell

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dustoff262 View Post

      Where ever ppl are left alive. Sobering thought, isn’t it?
      Besides a nuclear holocaust, where would a war between China and USA be fought?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lovinlife View Post

        Besides a nuclear holocaust, where would a war between China and USA be fought?
        Western thoughts would be small island chains and naval battles. Chinese thought, Wall Street, American unrest, ports of entry, precision military strikes on US based airfields and military industries. EMPs and satellite warfare as well.

        China will make their first strike hurt the US more. The US is not on a war manufacturing footing. We are expending too much on Ukraine.
        “We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.”​
        George Orwell

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dustoff262 View Post
          1 month of war with Russia or china will deplete your pension funds. I hope it's worth it.

          it will be a financial catastrophe worse than all the depressions put together. We would be at war with each other over gas station sushi.

          Why are we saber rattling under this POTUS idiot? That list will be long, but among the top would be the corruption that has metastasized over the last 50 yrs, No country, no corrupt ideology survives more than 70 yrs without tyranny. We are living on borrowed time.

          So if anyone thinks we can survive mutually assured destruction, then I hope you have stocked up on ammo and know which neighbors you can form a tribe with, and those who need to be chased out of town. Because money will be the new toilet paper and .223 will be what guarantees you have meat on the table.

          A little extreme, but we are slowly inching towards that end. It's so slow, no one, not the govt, the media, or your favorite pundit will tell you in time to change course.
          I don’t want any war with China or Russia. Unfortunately, Russia will continue westward. They eventually will hit a NATO country and then we’ll be directly involved. China gets and takes a Taiwan, they will then use that as a launching pad to Okinawa and more importantly Hawaii. They’ve even said so in their military white papers. They have already stated they have no problems with bio weapons and even saying they could invent a vaccine or cure to use a leverage against a target country. I don’t want this fight, but Russia and China , with the Potato in office, does. Weakness begets more violence.

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          • #20
            Its probably a good time to stock up on your MRE's and survival stuff, ready your "go bag". of course if theres a nuclear exchange you probably wont have to worry about 'going" anywhere, except heaven or Hell. In such a conflict winning is as dangerous as losing. Even if we won the conventional war we'd still take heavy casualties and a desperate China just might launch a 1st strike on our missile fields and Submarine bases as well as other strategically important targets. This thing could take on a life of its own and spin rapidly out of control.

            And it all started with Uncle Junior publicly stating we'd automatically come to the defense of Taiwan, shit canning the one China policy and the strategic ambiguity that went with it. This was a mistake because even tho it was clear we'd probably take Taiwan's side already there was no need to rub the noses of the Chinese in it with a public statement. I think Biden said it off the cuff without even thinking. He has no idea about the concept of "face" in the Asian mind or the importance of keeping it for them. Everybody knew we'd support Taiwan but there was no need to say it.

            And then theres the infiltration of Chinese money and influence into our own Govt. which stinks to high heaven.
            "Weapons are part of my religion"

            I'm just saying what the rest of you are thinking.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lovinlife View Post

                Besides a nuclear holocaust, where would a war between China and USA be fought?
                Right now we could no fight a conventional war with Russia or China, we just don't have the manpower. We would have to initiate the draft. Do you think these snowflakes on the left would fight for our country. Would Biden win re election if he brings back the draft?
                “put on the full armor of God” to fight the “destructive agenda of Joe Biden"... Ronald Dion DeSantis, 8/2022

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DBLCD View Post

                  Right now we could no fight a conventional war with Russia or China, we just don't have the manpower. We would have to initiate the draft. Do you think these snowflakes on the left would fight for our country. Would Biden win re election if he brings back the draft?
                  I mean… they got Emma and her two moms. What could go wrong?😐
                   

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jobsecurity View Post

                    I mean… they got Emma and her two moms. What could go wrong?😐
                    Emma and her two moms would flee to Canada if we start a war with China. 😂
                    “put on the full armor of God” to fight the “destructive agenda of Joe Biden"... Ronald Dion DeSantis, 8/2022

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DBLCD View Post

                      Right now we could no fight a conventional war with Russia or China, we just don't have the manpower. We would have to initiate the draft. Do you think these snowflakes on the left would fight for our country. Would Biden win re election if he brings back the draft?
                      A country would have to think very hard to invade the United States there a 400 million registered guns in this country hell I have 5 guns and 4 family members. Son you point a shot got it.
                      Some Japanese guy said there is a gun behind every blade of grass right after Pearl Harbor.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by HAPD View Post

                        We are way behind the Eight ball Brother. What we are attempting to do now should have started 15 years ago, especially building ships, planes and all sorts of missiles.
                        I see it as a race to be combat effective on a national level. The Chinese are almost there, we were there until We became Guns are Us to Ukraine.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by uncivil servant View Post

                          I see it as a race to be combat effective on a national level. The Chinese are almost there, we were there until We became Guns are Us to Ukraine.
                          No, we are no where close to being ready. Ships, planes, helo's, tanks suffer from up rates of as low as 50%. The OsamaObama years and sequestration cause so much being lost due to maintenance funding being near zero that all these platforms have a 50% ability to do what they are intended to do. A naval fleet of 280+ ships is half of what we need. We ain't getting there anytime soon, if ever. Munitions wise we are well behind the 8 ball in magazine depth. More time spent of training for sexual harassment, CRT, D I E and other things that preparing for actual combat and how to save your ship from sinking. Yard periods well over budget and time frame. Some ships taking 3-4 years to go through upgrades. A national sin.
                          ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THEN GOD CREATED DESTROYER SAILORS.

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