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    ‘Gay clubs’ run in seminaries, says Pope Benedict in posthumous attack on Francis
    New book by the late pontiff makes extraordinary claims about the Catholic Church under his progressive successor
    ByNick Squires23 January 2023 • 6:02pm

    Pope Francis has been the head of the Catholic Church since 2013 CREDIT: Alessandra Benedetti/Corbis/Corbis via Getty Images
    Gay “clubs” operate openly in Catholic seminaries, the institutions that prepare men for the priesthood, the late Pope Benedict XVI has claimed in a posthumously published book scathing of Pope Francis’s progressive agenda.
    In a blistering attack on the state of the Catholic Church under his successor’s papacy, Benedict, who died on Dec 31 at the age of 95, said that the vocational training of the next generation of priests is on the verge of “collapse”.
    He claimed that some bishops allow trainee priests to watch pornographic films as an outlet for their sexual urges.
    Benedict gave instructions that the book, What Christianity Is, should be published after his death.
    It is one of a handful of recent books by conservative Vatican figures which have poured scorn on the decade-old papacy of Francis, who was elected after his predecessor’s historic resignation in 2013.
    The outpouring of new books contributes to “impressions of a mounting civil war in the Church following the death of Benedict XVI”, according to John Allen, a leading Vatican analyst who writes for Crux, the Catholic news outlet.

    Former Pope Benedict XVI dies aged 95

    The existence of “homosexual clubs” is particularly prevalent in the US, Benedict said in his book, adding: “In several seminaries, homosexual clubs operate more or less openly.”
    He cited the example of an American bishop who allegedly allowed his seminarians, or trainee priests, to watch porn films “presumably with the intention of rendering them capable of resisting behaviours contrary to the faith”.

    Benedict, whose conservative position on doctrinal matters contrasted with Francis’s more compassionate approach, complained that his previous books were regarded as dangerously traditionalist by some elements of the Church.
    “In not a few seminaries, students caught reading my books are considered unworthy for the priesthood. My books are concealed as dangerous literature and are read only in hiding.”
    Despite their many differences, Pope Francis also warned recently that priests and even nuns regularly watch porn.
    He made the remarks in October, saying that indulging in porn is a danger to the soul and a way of succumbing to the malign influence of “the devil”.​

  • #2
    Gee there's a surprise, catholic priests are sexual deviates.


    • #3
      As a non-catholic this has been my assessment for decades- that the RC Church, rather than accept the reality the flock is shrinking which correlates to fewer men being attracted to the priesthood, simply look the other way to recruit/retain the ones who do join.
      It's a textbook example of defining deviance down.
      “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”


      • #4
        Pope Benedict had a chance to do something about that but he did not. And neither has pope Francis. This is a self inflicted wound. The celibacy requirement keeps normal men out of the priesthood. Keeps married men out of priest hood. The priest hood is where sexual deviants can go and hide in plain sight. There used to be married priests and even married popes until some pope made up and imposed the celibacy rule.


        • #5
          Well.......I guess this is better then raping little boys.
          "Weapons are part of my religion"


          • #6
            Man made rules have consequences. If the Church wishes to survive this century it will change the celibacy requirement for the priesthood. Further modernization would allow women to become eligible as well. Females participate in the Protestant, Christian and Jewish faiths as priests, ministers and Rabbis.


            • #7
              The Catholic church is a hive of sexual deviants and it prevents me from going back to it. And thats one thing ; Another is the fact they have a bad history of hiding these perv's and shuffling them around to different parishes which it makes it a conspiracy. I got beat up by Nun's a lot as a kid and while I may have had it coming, because I acted like an asshole, I'm convinced much of their beating skill's came from rules forbidding them from doing the nasty. A sexually frustrated Nun is a fighting machine and you dont want to piss her off.

              These deviant priests are far worse. I once read that 80% of the priests in the Vatican are homosexuals or worse. While men banging men in the ass has become the "in" thing in society in the Church its strictly forbidden, or supposed to be. 80%! And at least 10% are pedophiles, upwards of 20 to 200 times more then the general population. Its clear the priesthood has become a vile nest of sexual degenerates and I wont be silent about it anymore. These priests need to be jailed just like anyone else if they prey on kids.

              Pity. I used to like going to mass and was an altar boy as a kid. I was lucky I didn't get chased around the altar by some degenerate priest. A hugely beloved priest from where I grew up at got caught up in all this, admitting many years before he assaulted a little boy. We were all shocked that this guy could do that.
              "Weapons are part of my religion"


              • #8
                Speaking as a non-catholic, the church shouldn't compromise it's celibacy policy to keep out deviants, it should uphold it's standards and reject the deviants from it's midst.
                “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”


                • #9
                  Originally posted by RetirementIsParole View Post
                  Speaking as a non-catholic, the church shouldn't compromise it's celibacy policy to keep out deviants, it should uphold it's standards and reject the deviants from it's midst.
                  For the first four century's of the Catholic Church, priests were allowed to marry. Some suggest that Jesus was married. Who knows. To change its rules to allowed married priests as heterosexuals to potentially block out homosexual pedophile priests is something that would not work as the sins of the flesh are always hidden till discovered. Jesus once said-do no arm to a child lest a rock be fastened around your neck and into the water you go, or words to that effect. Pedophilia is as evil as evil can be and it is everywhere these days.


                  • #10
                    I think there will be, if there isnt already a concerted effort to recruit and train more Deacons. If they are married before they are ordained thats ok but if single they cant marry so this might be a way to increase ordained types even if they are not titled Priests.


                    • #11
                      This isn't new.

                      U.S.News and World Report did an extensive investigative report on this back in the early 1990s.


                      • #12
                        and I wont be silent about it anymore.
                        Actually Ive never been silent about it. In fact Ive never been silent about anything. Probably why I retired a Patrolman.

                        I absolutely despise Pedo's and abusers of children.

                        And while I have nothing against them, and have given them equal protection under the Law, theres something about one guy banging another in the ass I find disgusting.
                        Last edited by CPD39; 01-25-2023, 12:50 PM.
                        "Weapons are part of my religion"


                        • #13
                          I'm a Catholic. The Church has to allow married men into the priesthood. At least for most orders. If I was inclined to become a priest, I'd walk into their gay club and wonder what in the wild world of sports was going on. This is exactly why they will never allow it. It would destroy their pervert club. That being said, remember as a cop what it's like to be painted with a broad brush.


                          • #14
                            It is not just the pedo's, it is also the living high on the hog, stealing from the Vatican bank, organized crime within the church and a lot more. Typical human sins. Ain't no Saints in the Catholic Church. Sure there are great priests and other staffers, but the Vatican, the original deep state swamp.

                            January 25, 2023
                            American Thinker-Pope Benedict, speaking from the grave?
                            By Monica Showalter

                            Pope Benedict XIV is dead but apparently has left behind a book to be read, highlighting a Church near "collapse," its seminaries gay "clubs," and plenty of criticism for the man presiding now over it all, Pope Francis.
                            According to Robert Spencer at PJMedia:
                            When Pope Benedict XVI died on December 31 at the age of 95, it turns out that he had a completed book ready for publication upon his death. Written in Italian, that book, Che cos’è il Cristianesimo: Quasi un testamento spirituale (What Is Christianity: Almost a Spiritual Testament), is full of explosive revelations and trenchant criticism of his woke successor, Pope Francis. Could Pope Benedict begin a counter-revolution within the Roman Catholic Church from the grave? Stranger things have happened, although it would take any one of us a good while to think of one.
                            Pope Benedict explains that he did not want the book published while he was still living because of the furious reaction his writings inspired: “For my part, in life, I no longer want to publish anything. The fury of the circles against me in Germany is so strong that the appearance of my every word immediately causes a murderous shouting from them. I want to spare myself and Christendom this.”

                            It’s easy to see why this book would inspire “murderous shouting” from some corners of the Roman Catholic Church. Benedict writes that the Church is close to “collapse” and paints a picture of seminaries in the United States as centers of promiscuous homosexuality and perversion. “In various seminaries,” the pope explained, “homosexual ‘clubs’ were formed which acted more or less openly and which clearly transformed the atmosphere in the seminaries.
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                            All of this has been known for years by the Catholic faithful. I remember observing how many obviously gay priests there were as a student at the Jesuit University of San Francisco as early as the 1980s. With gayness came advocacy of the gay lifestyle. A then-"scandal" I covered for the university newspaper, The Foghorn, as a cub reporter was the leasing of the St. Ignatius cathedral, to the Gay Men's Chorus for a concert. Someone made that decision and at the time, it drew controversy. I doubt it would draw controversy now.

                            Since then, we have seen problems with this bowing to the gay lifestyle -- the first I noticed was that all the young straight young men in my circle, who sought to become priests, a heckuva lifetime commitment, were being dismissed from the seminaries as not suited to the priesthood. Maybe so, but not based on the character of the young men I knew. There was a growing suspicion that they weren't part of a sort of gay "club." It was strange how many of the devout they rejected.

                            When the pedophile scandals broke, there were an inordinate number of gay incidents among the perpetrators. I personally knew one of the pedo priests, the Rev. Donald McGuire, S.J., who taught at USF. He was into sex with young boys, particularly those who were new to the Church. Any moves to hose out these kinds of people? Seems he had been shifted again and again from assignment to assignment every time a scandal broke. To be fair, there were hetero perverts, too, but the gay component in these scandals was out of proportion to its numbers.

                            Now we have open advocacy for gay causes, with Pope Francis coming out with sympathetic statements for gay causes, and making that very odd statement that a priest in confession should forgive a sinner who has no intention of ending his sinning. Andrea Widburg wrote about that sudden shift in Church teaching in this post here. What else could that be but a green light to the gay lifestyle?

                            We also have a Synodal messages from our cardinal, Robert McElroy, wondering about the "demonic" rejection of parishioners of gay advocacy in the Church. McElroy is a nice guy and I hate to single him out, but his stance is one that doesn't seem to be necessary, given that the Church laws are exactly the same for gay and straight people, that sex is for procreation, so no sex outside marriage. As for "rejection," Catholics reject bad acts, not people. Why the sudden emphasis on this "inclusion" of gays, given that everyone knows that they aren't excluded? Why the activism? Most Catholics know a few gay Catholics who have full understanding of Church teaching and do all they can to follow it. I know one gay Catholic who is a deep devotee of the Latin mass, now being repressed by the Church under Pope Francis. He joined the Church to get away from the gay lifestyle, I haven't talked to him in awhile, but I doubt he wants to see it following him in. The 'inclusion' thing, in any case is kind of a weak argument coming from McElroy, who famously says he would give abortion-promoting Joe Biden communion, while Joe himself excludes little babies in the womb from a basic right to life and favors of cutting them up and selling them for spare parts at a profit. If an unrepentant Hitler wanted into the Church, would McElroy let him in, too, in the name of 'inclusion'? The moral disorder here is obvious.

                            The Gay Men's Chorus in the cathedral was the 'scandal' of the '80s, but now that the lavender mafia has gotten entrenched in the Church, we are seeing scandals like this:
                            NEWCASTLE, England ( - The Vatican is investigating a homosexual "sex party" at an English cathedral after its bishop quit and the cathedral dean, who organized the event, killed himself following allegations of abuse.


                            Individuals complained about the party and said "the cathedral had become a laughing stock."
                            The party, which reportedly featured a drag queen, was held in the presbytery adjoining St. Mary's Cathedral in Newcastle during the COVID-19 lockdown.
                            Father Michael McCoy, the cathedral dean abruptly appointed by Bp. Byrne to replace the popular previous incumbent Fr. Dermott Donnelly, is said to have approached several worshippers in the diocese and asked them if they would like to attend the party.
                            On April 10, 2021, Canon McCoy's body was found hanging in an apartment on City Road in Newcastle, four days after Northumbria police informed the priest that they were investigating "a non-recent allegation" of child sex abuse against him.
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                            Open that story with caution, you may feel you need a shower after reading it.

                            And this, which I wrote about in 2018:
                            Was the man who who's widely believed to be the next cardinal for the Washington archdiocese, Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, bunking with a houseboy?
                            It looks like it, given the reporting of the indefatigable George Neumayr.

                            Well, where do these events come from, other than a long downhill slide into tolerance for the gay agenda (notice I didn't say 'gay people' which is a separate matter) being promoted by activists, and then an embrace of it, slowly, then quickly, by what Pope Benedict called a gay 'club' within the Church leadership.

                            The book is a bombshell for Pope Francis, and it follows from two other books also critical of his papacy.

                            Some observers call it chaos or civil war within the Church, and there are those who see it coming from a couple of directions -- not just the conservatives upset that traditional Church teachings are being replaced by intolerant wokester ideology, but from the far-left, too, among the crazed German Church leadership which seems to be in opposition to all Church teachings. It may be overcalling it, but Pope Benedict did warn that the Church was looking at a potential collapse. It's obviously a sign of trouble. And it may be a sign that the Church needs some new leadership.​


                            • #15
                              Reinforces what I've believed for several decades now
                              “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”