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    'It's dead': NYC Council won't pass bill to let mayor charge retired city workers for healthcare


    Eric Adams could eliminate retired EMS providers, firefighters, officers and others' health insurance options except for Medicare Advantage

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    By Chris Sommerfeldt
    New York Daily News

    NEW YORK — City Council leaders announced Thursday they have no plan to pass a bill pushed by Mayor Eric Adams that would allow his administration to charge retired municipal workers for health insurance — and multiple sources in the chamber told the Daily News that the legislation is unlikely to ever get a vote.

    The bill is a last resort in the Adams administration’s longtime effort to enroll the city’s roughly 250,000 retired workers in a cost-cutting Medicare Advantage Plan that critics say would result in inferior health coverage. “There is no scheduled next step,” New York City Council Speaker Adrienne Adams said Thursday about the mayor's plan to charge retired municipal workers such as firefighters and EMS providers for healthcare. (Photo/Luiz C. Ribeiro/Tribune News Service)
    Courts have twice blocked the administration from implementing the plan due to a provision that would slap $191 monthly premiums on retirees who want to opt out of it in favor of staying on traditional Medicare. While Advantage would be free, the courts have said the administration’s proposed financial penalty for other coverage runs afoul of a local law known as 12-126 that requires the city to provide its retirees with no-premium coverage for life.

    As a result, the mayor has for months pressed the Council to rewrite 12-126 in such a way that the $191 fee would become legally feasible — but Speaker Adrienne Adams said Thursday afternoon that her body has no plan to vote on legislation introduced at his request that would achieve that end.

    “There is no scheduled next step,” the speaker said during a news conference at City Hall.

    During a contentious Council Labor Committee hearing earlier this month, Adams administration officials said that if the Council does not adopt the 12-126-tweaking bill by Jan. 26, they would move ahead with the drastic option of eliminating all health insurance options for retirees besides Medicare Advantage.

    The administration has maintained that option would comply with the court rulings since there’d be no financial penalty at play.

    Given that the Council’s final meeting of the month was Thursday, Speaker Adams confirmed the body will not act by the stated deadline. That presumably means the administration will follow through on its pledge to make Advantage the only available plan for municipal retirees.

    Adams spokesman Jonah Allon declined to disclose the administration’s next step. Instead, Allon reiterated that the mayor and the Municipal Labor Committee believe the administration must move ahead with Advantage because it could save the city hundreds of millions of dollars per year at a time of great fiscal uncertainty for the municipal government.

    “The city and the Municipal Labor Committee worked together to take advantage of the federal funding for Medicare Advantage plans that would permit us to continue providing high-quality, premium free coverage for retirees while saving approximately $600 million a year — savings that are especially critical as we continue to face a skyrocketing health care crisis and other fiscal challenges,” Allon said.

    Before the full Council would ever be able to consider the bill favored by Adams, the Labor Committee would have to approve it — and a source inside the panel said that’s highly unlikely.

    “The appetite isn’t there to move this bill,” the source told The News, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

    Another source close to Council leadership agreed. “It’s dead,” the insider said of the bill, noting that no Council member came out in support of it during this month’s hearing in the committee.

    In her press conference, Speaker Adams declined to speculate on whether there’s any support for the bill in the chamber.

    She cast doubt over the Jan. 26 deadline floated by the administration, though.

    “It’s not even clear that the deadline was ever [active],” she said before lamenting that the administration hasn’t yet provided the Council with a detailed contract for its preferred Advantage plan. “One of the questions at the hearing was, ‘Where’s the contract?’ ... We didn’t even have a contract to deliberate on as a body, so for me, that was a very important piece of information that we would need to go forward in any decision.”

    The NYC Organization for Public Service Retirees filed the lawsuit that prompted courts to block the first iteration of Adams’ Advantage push — and has indicated it will seek additional legal intervention if his administration attempts to make it the only health plan available to them.

    “If they did that, I’m sure we’ll see them in court pretty quickly,” Marianne Pizzitola, a retired FDNY EMT who leads the retiree group, said at last month’s hearing to cheers from her members.

    Ever since former Mayor Bill de Blasio’s administration first tried to roll out the Advantage plan in the fall of 2021, thousands of retired teachers, EMTs and other municipal workers have argued that such a switch would destroy their coverage. They’ve pointed to federal studies showing that Advantage plans — which are administered by private health insurance providers, unlike traditional Medicare — can deny “medically necessary” care for beneficiaries.

    Adams’ administration has disputed such concerns and said Advantage would provide retirees with robust coverage, while allocating savings to hedge against a city budget deficit that could grow as large as $6 billion in coming years.

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  • #2
    What's Mayor Swaggerman's next move?

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    • #3
      Back when the financial world fell apart in 2007 Gov. Christie announced it was my fault and all the other public workers as to why NJ was going broke . That fkr tried to make all of us pay for health care in retirement . He also made us start to pay for it while working regardless of our contracts . I went from $0 to $950 a month , he took away our COLA's forever too .

      An Assemblyman who was a Sheriffs officer got Christie to agree NOT to charge anyone with 20 or more years on for retirement health benefits since we had no time to arrange our lives for that expenditure .

      Now patrolman pay about a grand a month in retirement health benefits . These fking politicians should spend a day in hell for every day they are in office .
      “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.”

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      • #4
        It is dead for now. Let’s see what happens next.

        Swagger man whom usually doesn’t have a plan, might be scheming.
        Even a broken clock is right twice a day, unless it's a military clock. The above post was not approved or corrected for grammar and syntax, or checked for spelling by the forums administrators.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 899xxxandretired View Post
          It is dead for now. Let’s see what happens next.

          Swagger man whom usually doesn’t have a plan, might be scheming.
          he's always scheming and is a gun decker it's what he is.
          ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THEN GOD CREATED DESTROYER SAILORS.

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          • #6
            Put the migrants to work and have them pay TAXES! LOL!! 😆

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 899xxxandretired View Post
              It is dead for now. Let’s see what happens next.

              Swagger man whom usually doesn’t have a plan, might be scheming.
              ”Hell has no fury like a swagger man scorned”

              How’s that “Defund the Police” working out for you?😂

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              • #8
                Swagger man, as he steps into his frilly lace panties, will be furious.
                ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THEN GOD CREATED DESTROYER SAILORS.

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                • #9
                  He’s got a pen and a phone. Unilateral action.

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                  • #10
                    We can thank the Bush cabal for the attack on traditional Medicare.




                    What they have planned.





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                    • #11
                      Hey Eric, go fuck yourself! Take your Medicare Advantage Plan and stick it up your ass you fucking weasel. You should be embarrassed trying to take benefits from the people who risked their lives every day to keep everyone safe. Only a person who never risked their life would try and hurt people who did it every day. Go back to the subway and hide in the cleaner's room like you did so many years ago. You were, are and will always be a piece of shit and your living proof that a Leopard does not change it's spots.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fukdajob View Post
                        Hey Eric, go fuck yourself! Take your Medicare Advantage Plan and stick it up your ass you fucking weasel. You should be embarrassed trying to take benefits from the people who risked their lives every day to keep everyone safe. Only a person who never risked their life would try and hurt people who did it every day. Go back to the subway and hide in the cleaner's room like you did so many years ago. You were, are and will always be a piece of shit and your living proof that a Leopard does not change it's spots.
                        Epic. Classic Rant. And well said sir.

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                        • #13
                          It was the actual UNIONS that pushed this. How insane is that? All these unions need a collective colon flushing. That Maryanne lady doing God’s work is almost solely responsible for single handedly saving us. Her organization and her weaponized autistic attention to this singular issue is why the City Council put a cabosh on this. If me and that women is ever in a bar together, she will never have to pay for a drink. Ever.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jobsecurity View Post
                            It was the actual UNIONS that pushed this. How insane is that? All these unions need a collective colon flushing. That Maryanne lady doing God’s work is almost solely responsible for single handedly saving us. Her organization and her weaponized autistic attention to this singular issue is why the City Council put a cabosh on this. If me and that women is ever in a bar together, she will never have to pay for a drink. Ever.
                            She likes Bailey's Irish Cream. Toasted someone the other night with it. She is an absolute rock star.
                            ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. THEN GOD CREATED DESTROYER SAILORS.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jobsecurity View Post
                              ....That Maryanne lady doing God’s work is almost solely responsible for single handedly saving us. Her organization and her weaponized autistic attention to this singular issue is why the City Council put a cabosh on this....
                              100% correct
                              “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

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